CVS Live - 2020-02-08 - Episode 0011

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This is the 7th in a series of episodes wherein I reflect on the 16 documents of the Second Vatican Council.


CVS Live - 2020-02-08 - Episode 0011

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this is CBS and now here's your host a real role here I'm just gonna keep rolling up commence the beautiful sixteen documents of Vatican to the Second Vatican Council it ended in 1965 still very much unexplored unexamined by most of the laity even most of the clergy I would say don't understand it haven't read it haven't taken the time to read the documents well worth looking at I'm just giving you a very rough tour based on my highlights my notes that I took on my Kindle and I hope you find it it's you excited about the faith gets you excited about Vatican 2 and you'll buy the book read the book the translation of your choice the 16 documents of Vatican to read the footnotes right now we're going through similar footnotes last time I left off with some other footnotes so we'll just continue I think this is the last of the footnotes in this particular section of continuing the theme of Mary as type of the church developed in this and the following two articles is central to the chapter and partly accounts for the decision of the council to treat Mary very significant to treat of Mary the Blessed Virgin Mary within the document on the church the Constitution on the very significant I think and we read last time or the time before about Mary and how the church is like unto Mary Mary is that perfection the church is very very significant hmm some of the council fathers wanted to have a separate document about marry but that would have seemed to have separated marry in some way from the church he cannot be separated from the church and she cannot be separated from her son Jesus Christ unity one of the marks of the church one of the marks and we are united to Jesus Christ were united to the church and ultimately we're going to partake the very life of the Trinity so where are we were in the addenda from the acts of the most-holy Council the Vatican this doesn't this doesn't make any sense how can I be how can I possibly be at the addenda okay well let's just let's just go through see what it says the question has been raised what ought to be the theological qualification of the doctrine which is set forth in the schema ecclesia and is being voted on the theological Commission gave the answer to this question when it evaluated the mode mode i or modi pertaining to chapter 3 of des ecclesia in these words as is self-evident a conciliar text must always be interpreted according to the general rules known by all on that occasion the theological Commission referred to its own declaration of March 6 1964 we repeat that text here in view of conciliar practice and the pastoral purpose of the present Council this sacred synod defines matters of faith or morals as binding on the church only when the synod itself openly declares so other matters which the sacred Synod proposes as the doctrine of the supreme teaching authority of the church each and every member of the faithful is obliged to accept an embrace according to the mind of the sacred synod itself which becomes known either from the subject matter or from the language employed according to the norms of theological interpretation from a higher authority there is communicated to the father's an explanatory and preparatory note on the mode I concerning chapter 3 of the schema the ecclesia the doctrine set forth in the same chapter three ought to be interpreted and understood according to the mind an opinion of this note perfect or e note of explanation the commission decrees that the following general observations should precede the evaluation of the mode I number one college is not understood in a strictly juridical sense namely a group of equals who entrust their power to the president but of a stable group whose structure and authority is to be supernatural in other words hence in reply to motifs 12 it is explicitly asserted that of the 12 that the Lord established them in the manner of a college or a stable group the supernatural thank God himself the god man Jesus Christ established his College as a stable group but it's not a legal strictly juridical word the word college has special technical meaning for us Christians for the same reason the words order or body are also used here and there of the College of Bishops the parallel between Peter and the other apostles on the one hand and the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops on the other does not imply any transmission of the extraordinary power of the pulseless to their successors nor as is clear any equality between the head and the members of the college but only a proportionality between the first relationship that is between Peter and the Apostles and the second relationship that is to say the Pope and the bishops hence the Commission decided to write in number 22 not by the same reason but by person a continuing a now and number two a person becomes a member of the college by virtue of Episcopal consecration and hierarchical communion with the head of the college and its members in consecration is given an ontological participation in sacred functions as is clear beyond doubt from the tradition even liturgical the word functions is deliberately employed rather than powers since this latter word would be understood as ready to go into action but for such ready power to be at hand it needs canonical or juridical determination by her hierarchical Authority this determination of power can consist in the granting of a particular office or in an assigning of subjects and it is given according to norms provided by the high approved by the highest authority such an ulterior norm is demanded by the nature of the case since there is in question of functions since there is question of functions which must be exercised by several subjects working together by Christ's will in a hierarchical manner it is clear that this communion has been in the life of the church according to the circumstances of the time before it was so to speak codified in law therefore it is significantly stated that hierarchical communion is required with the head of the church and its members communion as an idea which was held in high honor by the ex by the ancient church as it is even today especially in the East it is understood however or not of a certain vague feeling but of an organic reality which demands a juridical form and is simultaneously animated by charity hence the Commission by practically unanimous sent decreed that it must be written in hierarchical communion and also what is said of canonical mission under article 24 though the documents of the more recent Pope's dealing with the jurisdiction of bishops must be interpreted in the light of this necessary determination of powers number 3 of the college which cannot exist without its head it is said that it is the subject also of supreme and full power over the whole church this must be allowed of a necessity if the fullness of power of the Roman pontiff is not to be jeopardized for necess for necessarily and always the college carries with it the idea of its head who preserves intact in the college his role of Vicar of Christ and Shepherd of the universal Church in other words there is no distinction between the Roman pontiff and the bishops taken collectively but between the Roman pontiff by himself and the Roman pontiff together with the bishops since the supreme pontiff is the head of the college he alone can perform certain acts which in no wise belong to the bishops for example convoking and directing the college approving the norms of action etc compared with mortis 81 the care of the whole flock of Christ has been entrusted to the supreme pontiff it belongs to him according to the changing needs of the church during the passage of time to determine the way in which it is fitting for this care to be exercised whether personally or collegially the Roman pontiff proceeds according to his own discretion and in view of the welfare of the church in structuring promoting and endorsing any exercise of collegiality number 4 as supreme pastor of the church the sovereign pontiff can always exercise his authority as he chooses as is demanded by his office itself while the college always existed is not for that reason permanently operate through strictly collegial action as the tradition of the church shows in other words it is not always in full act indeed it operates through collegial actions only at intervals and only with the consent of its head the phrase is with the consent of its head where there should be no thought of a dependence on some outside person the word consent on the contrary recalls the communion existing between head and members and implies the necessity of the Act which properly belongs to the head this idea is expressed explicitly asserted in article 22 section 2 and is main and is in and is explained at the end of the same location the negative word only takes in every case thus it is evident that the norms approved by the supreme authority must always be observed in every instance it is clear that the union of the bishops with their head is contemplated and never action of the bishops taken independently of the Pope or in the latter case the head would be inoperative and the bishops did not function as a college as is evident from the very concept of a college this hierarchical communion of all the bishops with the supreme pontiff is undoubtedly a recurring feature of tradition note without hierarchical communion the sacramental ontological office as distinct from its canonical juridical aspect and not be exercised I'll say that again without hierarchical communion a sacramental ontological office as distinct from its canonical juridical aspect cannot be exercised the Commission has decided not to go into the question into questions of Lacetti and validity which are left to the debate of the theologians especially with regard to the power which is de-facto exercised among the second separated Easterners and which is so that by that appendix by the titular Archbishop of sama-sama SATA and who is also that general or was the general secretary of the most-holy second ecumenical council of the Vatican I have highlighted the footnotes to let me see if this urn this all pink this excerpt from the Acts of the council is not an integral part of the Constitution on the church but an appendix to the text Constitution the text of the Constitution as found in the ACTA Apostolic a sadies it consists of two announcements by the Secretary General of the Council made on the eve of the final vote these announcement announcements quote two statements made by the theological Commission the committee of Bishops charged with the drafting of the Constitution on the church both of both of grace that great importance for the correct interpretation of the Constitution itself especially chapter 3 the theological qualification of a proposition has reference to the green to the degree and kind of ascent which with regard to the Constitution on the church the question had been raised whether it defined any new dogmas for example the Episcopal consecration is a sacrament or that the bishops are divinely constituted as a corporate body college the theological Commission replied that especially in view of the predominantly pastoral aims of attica to the teachings of the Constitution were not to be regarded as infallible definitions unless clearly and specifically proposed as such the doctrinal pronouncements of this and other documents of vatican ii since they come from the highest Magisterial organ in the church should of course be accepted and believed by Catholics with that religious assent which is due to compare this to what is said about this religious sense what is said about this religious assent to the teaching of the but nothing in the language of Constitution on the church indicates that the council wish to propose its teaching in this document with your irrevocable binding force proper to infallible definitions on this question see the teaching authority of attica to continuing now the original purpose of this preface or a preparatory note by the theological Commission was to explain to the council fathers the reasons why certain proposed amendments or mode I chapter 3 were handled as they were but since the note throws my will light on the proper understanding of the text itself higher authority presumably Pope Paul himself directed that it should be published as an authentic norm of interpretation all commentators agree that this note does not weaken or modify the teaching of chapter 3 rather it sets forth in more technical and juridical language how certain points in the text are to be understood in particular clarifies the meaning of the term college the manner by which one is made a member of the significance of the hierarchical communion the relationship between the college collegial authority of the bishops and the primacy of the Pope the precision with which these thorny points are here handled went far to remove the lingering doubt of some council fathers and thus who paved the way for the almost unanimous acceptance which the Constitution on the church finally received a little bit dry a little bit laborious there but I wanted to read that because I made that highlight a or a reason it's because it deals with the interpretation how do we how do we interpret this what's doctrine what's available what's not infallible and we have a means here that is it has the endorsement of the Holy Father Pope all the sixth this note was endorsed by Paulus it and it was published at his on his order it was published with the documents of Vatican 2 with that first document on the but I don't wanna dwell on that a little bit technical let's continue with the next note this note is a response by Albert Ayler and it reads as follows I just made one highlight to begin with the notion of the church as mystery in Chapter one is once to lift the discussion above the level of institutional organization and management and to establish as a first premise of sound ecclesiology the reality of the church's divine origin maintenance and destiny the church in history is quote human all too human unquote but her true dynamic what accounts for her continuity through history and her effective witness in the world lies beyond human manipulation or merit to speak of the church as mystery is to confess God's constant sovereignty and to remind all Christians that we belong to the church the church does not belong to us it also implies that the whole church is mysteriously present in each local congregation but that no congregation or denomination for that matter exhausts the fullness of the church Catholic interesting little this - from mr. out ler this other comment here given the new IQ medical climate which has been generated by Vatican 2 and the guidelines for the ecumenical enterprise provided by on acute ISM and on religious liberty to the other segment sixteen documents it is obvious they all who dream of the healing of the sixth wound of Christ yet disunity will have the dogmatic Constitution on the church as a basic so it's a it's a starting place for moving forward that's the whole point of Attica - it's a pastoral council helping now we're going to look at the next the important point is here made the biblical faith is far more than intellectual assent to propositions it okay so st. Tom I like to quote st. Thomas on this he said our faith is not in propositions our faith is in the it's a revealed religion Christianity it's a revealed religion meaning that God Himself speaks to us so it's not intellectual assent propositions it's a loyal adherence to a personal God that's what religion is that's what true religion is moving on to the next highlight more precisely scripture contains revelation namely in the form of a written record but not all of Scripture is revelation much of it is the record of revelations effects of the human reactions to it of men's faith or lack of it lack of faith very important note here all of Scripture is inspired but not all is revealed similarly tradition comes to include much that is only of human origin however venerable and valuable at the time of the Council of Trent great difficulty was experienced in drawing a line between traditions which merely witnessed two main chant usages in the church and those which represented the revelation of Christ considerable progress has been made since then by theologians and church historians and clarifying the point but not all not all such questions are yet solved hence the written record in the New Testament is vitally important the permanent and unchanging testimony of the Apostolic generation the New Testament writings do not claim to be in fact they obviously are not a complete and balanced inventory of the early church's beliefs nevertheless they lay down what cannot be changed the rule of faith as it was recorded to which the church is always bound and which you can develop and expand but never falsify on the other hand a written record is a dead letter needing constant interpretation and commentary and succeeding ages it cannot of itself answer new questions or explain what was once clear and has now become a become obscure but the writings transmitted in a living community a living community from one generation to the other are accompanied by a continuous tradition of understanding and explanation which preserves and reexpress --is their meaning and which applies them from time to time to the solving of new problems if this tradition were only human it would be liable to grave error bus's such a consequence is avoided by the church's Magisterium which however much exposed to human vagaries and mistakes and secondary matters is preserved from going wrong in essentials by the indwelling presence of Christ's spirit the Constitution especially emphasizes in article 10 the coordination and interplay of Scripture tradition and the Magisterium in whatever way the question of the separate values of the first two may be answered in theory in practice all three function together and all are necessary for the church's life is an introduction by RAF McKenzie Jesuit Society of Jesus important to bear a note that this is not this is a human this is a very human note I think it contains much truth though I agree with the emphasis that he's placing in his introduction so now we're going to move on to the actual document itself which is infallible because it's normally taught by the College of Bishops together with their head the this plan of Revelation is realized by deeds and words having an inner unity the deeds wrought by God in the history of salvation manifest and confirm the teaching and reality is signified by the words while the words proclaim the deeds and clarify the mystery it contained in them by this revelation then the deepest truth about God and the salvation of man is made clear to us in Christ who is the mediator and at the same time the fullness of all revelation want to read that again this plan of Revelation is realized by deeds and words having an inner unity so there's a unity of the deeds in the words the deed wrought by God in the history of salvation manifest and confirm the teaching and realities signified by the words while the words will claim the deeds and clarify the very interesting way of phrasing that the interplay between the deeds of God in the words the Word of God very very interesting to meditate on that I'll another note here the obedience of faith must be given to God who reveals an obedience which by me the obedience of faith must be unstart over the obedience of faith must be given to God who reveals an obedience by which man entrusts his whole self freely to God offering the full submission of intellect and will to God who reveals and freely assenting to the truth revealed by him if this faith is to be shown the grace of God and the interior help of the Holy Spirit must precede and assist moving the heart and turning it to God opening the eyes of the mind and giving joy and ease to everyone in accenting to the truth and believing it to bring about an ever deeper understanding of Revelation the same Holy Spirit constantly brings faith to completion by his gifts through divine revelation God chose to show forth and communicate himself and the eternal decisions of his will regarding the salvation of men that is to say he chose to share those divine treasures which totally transcend the understanding of the human mind this sacred synod affirms God the beginning and end of all things can be known with certainty from created reality by the light of human reason but the Synod teaches that it is through his revelation that those religious truths which are by their nature accessible to human reason can be known by all men with ease with solid start with solid certitude and with no trace of error even in the present state of the human formation of that dogma of the church it's a defeated dogma of the church from Vatican 1 I believe that God could be known by the natural light of Reason his existence can be known by the late natural reason without recourse to divine revelation but revelation makes it more easily known more certainly known because not to all men because not everyone's gonna sit down and study the philosophy which is not terribly complicated but it's a little bit you need a little bit of philosophic you need two philosophical inclination if nothing else if not a bit of training in the basics of philosophy to grapple with some of the proofs of the existence of God but with revelation that certainty available easily and to all men moving on to my note in chapter 2 of the same the same writing a second writing on Revelation this gospel had been promised in former times through the prophets and Christ himself and Christ himself fulfilled it and promulgated it with his own lips this commission was faithfully fulfilled by the Apostles who by their oral preaching my example and by ordinances handed on what they had received from the lips of Christ from living with him and from what he did or what they had learned through the prompting of the Holy Spirit the Commission was fulfilled to by those apostles and apostolic men who under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit committed the message the message of salvation to writing many of our separated brethren have a hard time accepting that the Holy Spirit moved the Apostles and the companions of the Apostles the Apostolic men to write with the Holy Spirit wanting them to write and only what Holy Spirit wanted them to write and that they that they were moved by Christ by their contact with Christ by the direct contact or a contact there is removed by one degree or by two degrees and that proximity to the life of Christ gave them a certain oral tradition that they were able to hand on after public revelation was officially closed and this is ongoing until today if you're a Catholic you should have no problem accepting that at some of our separated brother and have a hard time understanding the role of tradition moving on now through the same tradition the churches full canon of the sacred books is known and the sacred writings themselves are more profoundly understood and unceasingly made active in her and thus God who spoke of old uninterruptedly converses with the bride of his beloved son the church and the holy spirit through whom the living voice of the gospel resounds in the church and through her in leads us to all leads unto all truth those who believe and makes the word of so here we have this reference to the Canon of Scripture which depends on tradition very very interesting stuff I encourage everyone who considers themselves a Christian to look at the doctors medical to we're going to consider but that we're going to continue but that's it for this episode thanks for being with me care about what for as little as $1 Vermont we can support the terrible mission of CBS which has already enrolled hundreds of guests and patrons and their immediate families in the Scalabrine League of the millinery fathers of st. 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