CVS Live - 2020-02-09 - Episode 0014

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This is the 10th in a series of episodes wherein I reflect on the 16 documents of the Second Vatican Council.


CVS Live - 2020-02-09 - Episode 0014

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episode 14 Montreal Quebec Canada this is CBS and now here's your host David welcome back episode 14 we're gonna dive straight into the and let's just continue where we left off so as you see on your screen a but red highlights and yellow highlights reading indicates that have already bye-bye so picking up where we left off the promotion of liturgical instruction and active participation Mother Church earnestly desires that all the faith will be led to that full conscious and active participation in liturgical celebrations which is demanded by the very nature of the liturgy such participation by the Christian people as a chosen race a royal priesthood a holy nation a purchased people is their right so all conscious and active participation at masses is what we should be striving for full participation conscious person acted party not daydreaming were not distracted not gossiping and adding about sports or the weather with more when reverence and attitude mystical rhe presentation of the Holy Sacrifice before during and after the mass will liturgy is made up of unchangeable elements divinely instituted and elements subject to change obviously the latter not only may but ought to be changed with the passing of time if features have been by chance crept in which are less harmonious with the intimate nature of the liturgy or if existing elements have grown less functional in this restoration both text and rites should be drawn up so that they express more clearly the Holy things which they signify Christian people as far as possible should be able to understand them with ease and to take part in them fully actively and as befits community therefore this most sacred council establishes the following regulation of the Sacred Liturgy depends solely on the authority of the church that is on the Apostolic See and as laws may determine on the bishop in virtue of power conceded by the law the regulation of the liturgy within certain defined limits belongs also to various signs of competence territorial bodies of missions legitimately established therefore absolutely no other person not even a priest may add remove or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority that sound tradition may be retained and yet the way open for legitimate progress a careful investigation is always to be made into each part of the liturgy which is to be revised this investigation should be theological historical and post and pastoral also the general laws governing the structure and meaning of the liturgy must be studied in conjunction with the experience derived from recent liturgical reforms and from the indels conceded to various places finally there must be no innovations unless the good of the church genuinely and certainly requires them and care must be taken that any new forms adopted should in some way grow organically from forms already existing oh no clown masses as far as possible notable differences between the rights used in adjacent sacred scripture is of paramount importance in the celebration of the liturgy for it is from Scripture that lessons are read and explained in the homily and songs are sung prayers collects and liturgical songs are scriptural in their inspiration and it is from Scripture that actions and signs derive their meaning thus if the restoration progress and adaptation of the Sacred Liturgy are to be achieved it is necessary to promote warm and living love for Scripture which the venerable tradition of both Eastern and Western rites gives testimony the liturgical books are to be revised as soon as possible from various parts of the world experts are to be employed and bishops we can see here Vatican 2 is not reckless and imposing willy-nilly a bunch of random changes and innovations novelties into the liturgy elements of attic and to make it very clear that the liturgy is to be respected it's sacred and that changes and be made to the non essential parts of the liturgy they make the there are norms how to introduce changes and those set of accantus and rad tribes who complain about abuses are right to complain about abuses we all complain about abuses through the appropriate channels we should all work together to curb these abuses which are rampant here in Quebec the abuses are rampant we have lay people coming up to take communion and they're invited by the priest in tinct the host into oh Christ it's forbidden by the church but this is a custom in Quebec Vatican 2 it's it's an abuse but it's crept in so we need to distinguish the baby from the bathwater here the baby is Second Vatican Council the Holy Roman Catholic Church finally instituted and protected from teaching error concerning faith and morals in these infallible ecumenical councils and we need to give religious assent of mind end of will Oh assent to all the teachings contained and all the directives and all the pastoral terror and all the disciplines outlined in every ecumenical council that's that's a that's a fact you cannot do that if you're you you can it's not optional for Catholics we need to give full assent already full religious assent even to the disciplines even to the pastoral directives even to the norms which are subject to change but the church in Vatican 2 says these are the norms so we give religious assent to that the church is not endorsing any of us-- Church sets out the norms and is a very conservative and balanced approach to evaluating what's essential in the liturgy what's not essential what abuses have already crept in that we can get rid of what what elements are not necessary which elements are cluttering up the mask to do a sane and ballestas balanced assessment so that we can improve the liturgy not to go to town with innovation and abuses and just turn it into circus show as said of accantus would have us believe that that's what Vatican 2 was all about rebellion and rupture but it's not it's about continuity and tradition moving on now it is to be stressed that whenever rights according to their specific nature make provision for communal celebration involving the presence and active participation of the faithful this way of celebrating them is to be preferred as far as possible to a celebration that is individual and quasi private the liturgy is a public worship of God this rule applies with special force to the celebration of mass and the administration of the sacraments even though every mass has of itself a public servers Lecter's commentators and members of the choir also exercise a genuine liturgical ministry they ought therefore to discharge their office with the sincere piety and decorum demanded by exalted a ministry and rightly expected of them by God's people consequently they must all be deeply penetrated with the spirit of the liturgy each in his own measure and they must be trained to perform their functions in a correct and orderly manner the literate continuing now the liturgy makes distinctions between persons according to their liturgical function and sacred orders and there are liturgical laws providing for due honors to be given to civil authorities apart from these instances no special honors are to be paid in the liturgy to any private persons or classes of persons whether in the ceremonies or by it's God that's being glorified in the it's not the acolyte or the lecturer the it's it's got its God alone it's not the people on the stage this is not theater I have some experience volunteering that serving at masses and I have seen a little bit I don't want to name any names but I have seen stage directors that take it over like it's a theater production and they want a good show which is it's nice to have a good show at mass there is a bit of theater involved you know we need to quorum we need to have respect but it's not it's not theater not a show and we're not there to put on a show about worshiping but like anything else where human turn it into a man-made farce I just see it in the live chat here someone called Jesus hello Jesus nice to see you I don't know you but a nice to meet you he says good intro thank you hmm he says can you debate J diary I reached out to him he hasn't responded he's probably busy and I'm a complete nobody our - they're moving on now the visible signs used by the liturgy to signify invisible divine things have interesting to note that that distinction Christ or the church Christ and/or the church I would say because what christ chooses the church also chooses thus not only when things are read which have been written for our instruction but also when the church prays or sings or acts the faith of those taking part is nourished and their minds are raised to God so that they may offer him the worship which reason requires or copiously and more copiously receive His grace therefore in the revision of the liturgy the following general norms should be observed the rights should be distinguished by a noble simplicity they should be short clear and unencumbered by useless repetitions they should be within the people's powers of comprehension and and normally should not require much explanation that the intimate connection between words and rights may be apparent in the liturgy sacred celebration in sacred celebrations there is to be more reading from holer script Holy Scripture and it is to be more varied and suitable since the sermon is part of the liturgical service service the preferred place where it is to be indicated even in the rubrics as far as the nature of the write will allow and the ministry of preaching is to be fulfilled with the exact with exactitude and fidelity the sermon moreover should draw its content mainly from scriptural and liturgical sources its character should be that of a proclamation of God's wonderful works in the history of salvation that is the mystery of Christ which has ever made present and active within us especially in the celebration of the liturgy instruction which is more explicitly liturgical should also be imparted in a variety of ways if necessary should directives to be spoken by the priest or proper minister should be provided within the rites themselves but they should occur only at the more suitable moments and be in prescribed words or their equivalent Bible services should be encouraged especially on the vigils of the more solemn feasts on some weekdays in Advent and Lent and on Sundays and feast days they are particularly to be commended in places where no priest is available when this is so a deacon or some other person authorized by the bishop good preside over the celebration particularly remaining in force the use of that Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites so the Latin was not taken away by Vatican like to suggest moving on but since the use of the mother tongue weather in the mass the administration of the sacraments or other parts of the liturgy may frequently be of a great advantage to the people the limits of its employment may be extended this extension will apply in the first place to the readings and directives and to some of the prayers and chants according to the regulations on this matter we laid down separately in subsequent chapters so we see the limitations placed on Latin are very narrow very limited but it's really been saturated most poetic into I've never I've rarely heard any Latin in the masses in the vernacular that I've attended whether in a French English Italian and I attend a mass in all those three languages I've been to one traditional Latin Mass but the atmosphere was so dour and depressing and plumb that I never went back and I don't plan on going back that might just be in my particular City Montreal we don't have a good representation I've certainly seen on YouTube some traditional Latin masses that looked beautiful reverent joyful but that's not the case the church that I happen to go to maybe it was they were having a bad day but in any case I go in the vernacular English French or Italian is for the competent territorial ecclesiastical authority mentioned in article 22 after section 2 you decide whether and to what extent the vernacular language is to be used according to these norms their decrees are to be approved approved that is confirmed by the Apostolic See and whenever the procedure seems to be called for this authority is to consult with the bishops with bishops of neighboring regions blowing the same language translations from the Latin text into mother tongue which are intended for use in the liturgy must be approved by the competent territorial now is that what actually happened and unfolded or did priest just say oh about a conspirator Vatika - I can do what I want now I don't know we we hear a lot of stories about abuse rampant abuse priests and bishops just going to town and ignoring the norms and directives Vatican 2 just they think they have been caught up by the spirit of attitude I don't know but let's continue with this I don't want to dwell on the negative of the Vatican - I'd rather deal with the beauty of the norms the teachings of documents the actual 16 documents a Vatican - continuing now norms for adapting adapting the liturgy to the genius and traditions of people even in the liturgy the church has no wish to impose a rigid uniformity in matters which do not involve the faith or the good of the whole community rather she respects and fosters a spiritual adornments and gifts of the various races and people's anything in their way of life that is not in desala would bound up with superstition and error he studies with sympathy and if possible person preserves in tact sometimes in fact she admits such things into the liturgy itself as long as they harmonize with its true and authentic spirit a church is a mother she's very gentle she's very tolerant there's some things she cannot tolerate like changing essentials or a superstition no an error the church other that does not tolerate error right but she's a gentle mother and we can see here in the documents of Vatican 2 oh there's an emphasis on let's clean up but there's there's a very tolerant and moderate approach to cleaning up the liturgy and allowing for diversity in non essentials moving on provided that the substantial unity of the Roman Rite is maintained the revision of liturgical books should allow for legitimate variations and adaptations the different groups regions and people's especially in Mission lands where I'll per tune the same rule applies to the structuring of blah blah blah moving on to ensure that adaptations are made with all necessary circumspection the Apostolic See will grant power to the same territorial ecclesiastical authority permit and to direct as the Creek as the case requires the necessary preliminary experiments over a determined period of time among certain groups suited for the purpose so Vatican 2 admits there is a certain amount of experimentation and long as it's done in the rubrics and norms set out here it should all play out very nicely is that what actually happened historically it doesn't like it is but Satan has entered the church policy continuing now under the direction of the aforementioned territorial ecclesiastical authority of Commission is to regulate pastoral liturgical action throughout the territory and to promote studies and necessary experiments whenever there is question of adaptations he proposed the Apostolic See so again that explicit reference to experimentation in liturgy other church is allowing a certain amount of leeway and it's really a a moderate and balanced approach that Mother Church teach it takes this experiment fermentation in the liturgy besides the commission on the Sacred Liturgy every diocese as far as possible should have Commission's for sacred music and sacred are these three Commission's must harmonize their activities indeed it will frequently be advisable to fuse the three of them into more postural directors the most sacred mystery of the Eucharist at the Last Supper on the night when he was betrayed our Savior instituted the Eucharist Eucharistic sacrifice of his body and blood he did this in order to perpetuate the sacrifice of the Cross wrote the centuries until he should come again and so to entrust to his beloved spouse the church a memorial of his death and resurrection a sacrament of love a sign of unity a bond of charity a Paschal banquet which Christ is consumed the mind is filled with grace and a pledge of future glory is given to us the church therefore earnestly desires that Christ's faithful when present at this mystery of faith should not be there as strangers or silent spectators on the contrary through a proper appreciation of the rites and prayers they should participate knowingly devoutly and actively to be instructed by God's Word and be refreshed at the table of the Lord's body they should give thanks to God by offering the immaculate victim not only through the hands of the priest but also with him they should learn to offer themselves to through Christ the mediator they should be drawn day by day into ever closer union with God and with each other that finally God may be all consequently the sacred council having in mind those masses which are celebrated the existence with the assistance of faithful especially on Sundays and feasts of obligation issues the following decrees the sacrifice of the mass even in the ritual forms of its celebration can achieve its pastoral is to be revised in such a way that the intrinsic nature and purpose of its several parts as also the connection between them can be more clearly manifested and that devote an active participation by the faithful and be more easily accomplished for this purpose the rites are to be simplified while due care is taken to preserve their substance elements which with the passage of time came to be duplicated or were added with but little advantage are now to be discarded where opportunity allows or necessity demands other elements which have suffered injury through accidents of history are now to be restored to their earlier norm of the earlier norm of the Holy Fathers The Treasures of the Bible are to be opened up more lavishly so that richer fare may be provided for the faithful at the table of God's Word in this way a more represented representative portion of the Holy Scriptures will be read to the people over a set cycle of years you're a your B your C by means of the homily the mysteries of the faith and the guiding principles of the Christian life are expounded from the sacred texts during the course of the liturgical year the homily therefore is to be highly esteemed as part of the liturgy itself in fact at those masses which are celebrated with the assistance of the people on Sundays and feasts of obligation it should not be omitted on Sundays and Feast of obligations feasts of obligation there is to be restored after the gospel in the homily a common prayer for the prayer of the faithful by this prayer in which the people are to take part intercession will be made for Holy Church for the civil authorities for those oppressed by various needs for all nine kind and for it's one of my favorite parts of the mass actually especially when they when we pray for Pope Francis I always look for that if I don't hear that I'd never go back in masses which are celebrated with the people a suitable place may be allotted to their mother-tongue provision is to apply in the first place to the readings and the Common Prayer but also as local conditions may warrant to those perch arts which pertain to the people according to the norm laid down in article 36 of this constitute nevertheless steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the ordinary Mass the ordinary of the mass which pertain to them and whenever wherever a more extended use of the mother tongue within the mass appears desirable the relation regulation laid down in article 40 of this constitution is to be observed so as I said this these norms and rubrics seemed to be completely ignored because most of the vernacular messes that I go to contain little to no Latin whatsoever so it's that spirit of Vatican 2 that we hear so much of it has ignored the letter of the sixteen documents and in particular this document on the stick with liberty but it will self-correct over time Oh moving on chapter 3 the other sacraments and the sacramentals hmm the purpose of the sacraments is to sanctify men to build up the body of Christ and finally to give worship to God because they are signs they also instruct they not only presuppose faith but by words and objects they also nourish strengthen and express it that is why they are called sacraments of faith they do indeed impart grace but in addition the very act of celebrating them disposes the faithful most effectively receive this grace in the fruitful manner to worship God duly and to practice charity it is therefore of Capitol important importance the faithful easily understand the sacramental signs and with great eagerness have frequent recourse with those sacraments which were instituted to nourish the Christian life Holy Mother Church has moreover instituted sacramentals these are sacred signs which bear a resemblance to the sacraments they signify effects particularly of a spiritual kind which are obtained through the church's intercession by them men are disposed to receive the chief effect of the sacraments and various occasions in life are rendered holy but we think about using holy water making the sign of the Cross having metals crucifixes and these sorts of things these are all sacramentals thus for well-disposed members of the faithful the liturgy of the sacraments and the sacramental signifies almost every event in their lives sanctifies almost every event in their lives they are given access to the stream of divine grace which flows from the Paschal mystery of the passion death and resurrection of Christ the fountain from which all sacraments and sacramentals draw their power there is hardly any proper use of material things which cannot thus be directed toward the sanctification of men and the praise of amen this is the key to understanding Catholicism we if you if you get the book the new norm the new handbook of indulgences you'll see the very same thing outlined what is in indulgences that's drawing on the Treasuries of the of the merits of the bryceton Blessed Virgin Mary and the Saints we can tap into those graces it's measuring we can tap into using a sacramental using prayer anytime we lift our thoughts to go at every time we give with new spirit of piety love and devotion when we give alms everything we do in life when we work unchanged ously at our job we have in mind christ and the treasury of merits that the church holds for us we are gaining indulgences as long as we have intention to gain an indulgence we're getting flooded with Grace's it's so easy to get graces as a Catholic there is such a rich treasury in the church continuing now at because we're running out of time in Indian mission lands initiation rites are found in use among individual peoples elements from these when capable of being adopted to Christian ritual may be admitted along with those already found in Christian tradition according to the norm laid down in order in articles 37 to 40 of this constitution this brings to mind the Amazon descended in the Amazon the recent Synod and pukka mama scandal everyone was so upset about this representation of a pregnant woman and wooden carving or statue or whatever it was Vatican 2 clearly states that we can include these native elements provided they're sanctified by the church that's it for now I'll probably do another one take care for as little as $1 per month we can support a terrible mission of CBS which has already enrolled hundreds of guests and patrons and their immediate families in the Scalabrine League of the millinery 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