Catholic vs. Other – 2017-07-16 – Pykris

Pykris is the companion of Nicky, whom I interviewed recently. If I have understood correctly, this young man claims to be an avatar of one of Satan’s favorite demon-spawn, Pykris. I renounce forever Satan and all his demons and I give myself entirely to Jesus Christ.


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0:00 hi this is piker said you’re listening
0:02 to Catholic versus other tell the
0:08 listeners a little bit about yourself
0:09 who you are what you believe and how you
0:11 came to believe it okay so I’m 28 I live
0:16 in the most crappiest town ever you know
0:20 I’ve been through mental hospitals a
0:23 couple times and every time I’ve been in
0:27 there it seems like I’ve become more
0:30 disillusioned with things I’ve had these
0:34 episodes where things are like revealed
0:38 to me and it’s just crazy what did you
0:43 grow up with were you introduced to
0:44 religion as a very young child and did
0:46 you go back and forth with different
0:48 mainstream religions or in atheism or
0:50 how does that work for you well my
0:52 mother is a Methodist my dad’s a
0:55 non-practicing Catholic so I grew up
0:58 basically in the Methodist Church it’s
1:01 the only one out of all the Protestant
1:04 religions that I can even get behind the
1:06 man who founded it John Wesley was very
1:09 into that your relationship with God
1:12 should be between you and him and there
1:14 shouldn’t be a middle man between the
1:15 two he thought it should be personal so
1:18 I always I always kind of gravitated
1:21 towards that it made sense to me how did
1:24 you learn about John Wesley was that
1:26 your own initiative or when you taught
1:29 Google Wikipedia stuff like that and my
1:33 mom used to tell me about it cuz she did
1:35 a lot of research too on it did she
1:38 teach you to pray at night before bed no
1:40 my parents aren’t really super religious
1:42 so I always kind of had a different
1:44 outlook on religion it was never you
1:47 can’t look at that you can’t do that it
1:49 was always like oh go ahead and what is
1:52 the ethnic background of both parents to
1:54 do Takalua my mom in mostly British and
2:00 my dad is uh mostly Irish but there’s
2:05 smattering of other things in my mom and
2:08 both parents like my mom has some Native
2:12 American and
2:13 some North African ancestry and my dad
2:17 has European Jewish ancestry my last
2:20 name translates out of German – meaning
2:23 impetuous of fears it derives from an
2:27 old middle high german word and the
2:31 german side of my dad’s family they come
2:34 from baden baden on the edge of the
2:36 Black Forest and I was also doing
2:39 research and a lot of the legends of
2:42 werewolves come out of the Black Forest
2:43 Germany so I wonder if someone in my
2:48 family line was accused of being a
2:50 werewolf there seems to be some sort of
2:53 collaboration there but the supernatural
2:55 things that I was encountered puzzle
2:57 pieces are falling together what aged
3:00 were you when you started to have this
3:02 notion of the supernatural that it was
3:04 that it was real that it wasn’t just a
3:06 fairy tale that there is another sort of
3:08 dimension or another reality above this
3:10 natural plain how old would you been I
3:13 think around the age of 11 or 12 where
3:17 the experience is positive or negative
3:19 or well back then it was positive and
3:21 then fast forward 10 years later I have
3:27 an experience three years ago that led
3:30 me to being hospitalized I had wound up
3:35 purchasing marijuana that had been laced
3:37 with BMP and as soon as it entered my
3:41 system I was not here anymore not on
3:43 this plane scary very scary so how did
3:46 you confirm that that was the substance
3:48 that it was laced with DMT a blood pest
3:52 when I went to the hospital okay had you
3:56 ever thought about taking DMT prior to
3:57 that I had because everything I read
4:01 said it was like having a transcendental
4:04 experience but some people come out of
4:06 it they’re not the same right and was
4:09 that the case for you I would say so I I
4:11 came out the other side and I’m a
4:14 totally different person that I was okay
4:16 you would have been 22 or something like
4:18 that at the time 25 okay so can you talk
4:21 me through the trip a little bit when I
4:23 first ingested it I felt on top of the
4:25 world like
4:27 crazy on top of the world but I think
4:28 that was the pot but when when the DMT
4:31 finally kicked in I had visions I had
4:34 visions of the future the past various
4:38 other things it’s hard to describe like
4:41 when I went to the hospital my mom took
4:43 me and I had a vision of being shot in
4:47 the head by a cop in the emergency room
4:49 so there’s a bit of paranoia a little
4:51 bit yep I didn’t understand what the
4:53 hell was going on but you know and were
4:56 there were there beings approaching you
4:59 yes my higher self approach to me you
5:02 are separate from your higher self well
5:04 we’re we’re the saying and we’re
5:06 together but it’s just easier to refer
5:10 to him as separate okay
5:11 and is he a nice guy very very nice guy
5:15 actually if you don’t say so yourself
5:18 haha if I will say so myself he’s a good
5:21 no no I mean he claims to be the son of
5:26 Sadie okay one of the many sons of Satan
5:29 or the son one of the many okay but in
5:34 my religion the Roman Catholic Church
5:36 clearly teaches that each angel is a
5:39 unique species and they don’t generate
5:41 offspring of any kind what do you say
5:44 about that he’s sired a number of
5:46 children how would Satan reproduce what
5:48 is the mechanism like he’s not a man
5:49 that has sex with a woman so what what
5:51 is what’s happened to create creating
5:54 okay he wills a child and the child is
5:57 is sort of like that God said let there
5:59 be light and there was light it’s that
6:00 kind of thing yeah pretty much
6:03 and in your worldview you don’t see my
6:06 god as superior you see my God as some
6:09 sibling to Satan is that right to an
6:12 extent yes how many siblings does Satan
6:14 how do you think you know I never
6:16 thought about it but my God is the most
6:18 famous brother that Satan has right yes
6:21 yet the spiritual plane or the astral
6:25 plane the ëthe or whatever you want to
6:26 call it exists on top of the physical
6:30 realm when I was on DMT I swear I could
6:34 see both at the same time and it changed
6:37 my whole outlook I’ve been
6:40 a student of like quantum physics and
6:43 stuff and what we see as reality is only
6:47 like one tenth of actually what’s going
6:50 on
6:50 well this what I would describe is the
6:53 supernatural to me it’s more real than
6:56 than natural and I think that’s what
6:58 you’re sort of hinting at yeah that’s
6:59 exactly what I’m anything at actually I
7:02 think that the spiritual realm is more
7:04 vast it’s more real than what we
7:06 experience on this natural plane we
7:07 really are living a dumbed down
7:09 existence here I agree I totally agree
7:13 I’ve become a little disillusioned yeah
7:16 and when you watch the news you can
7:19 probably see now that it’s more or less
7:21 just a thin veneer of entertainment yet
7:24 yes oh my god finally somebody else that
7:27 same the same thought yeah PNN man she
7:30 had a fake news it’s been proven too and
7:32 that’s the scary part in my worldview
7:34 you can end up in hell forever and
7:36 that’s a really nasty horrible outcome
7:39 and it never ends and then there’s
7:41 heaven which is the opposite it’s
7:43 completely wonderful
7:44 do you have extreme outcomes that are
7:47 possible in your worldview I do but my
7:51 views on Hell are quite different than
7:53 yours yeah I would think so like yes
7:56 there’s destruction and torture but not
7:58 but that’s only a little miniscule part
8:01 of it and that’s really only for people
8:03 who have done like really extremely bad
8:07 things in their life but the rest of
8:10 Hell is not so bad
8:13 the people that we see in pop culture
8:15 like rock and roll heavy-metal people
8:17 that crave Hell and they serve Satan
8:19 openly and they want that sort of sex
8:22 drugs and rock and roll pleasure that
8:24 they attribute to hell I think all the
8:27 sex drugs and rock and roll’s in heaven
8:29 but they claim it’s in hell do you agree
8:32 with them and you think that they’re
8:33 headed for a big party I think it’s both
8:35 honestly I think it’s both I think sex
8:38 drugs had rock and roll to show up and
8:40 vote because sex is good drugs are good
8:42 and rock and roll is good in my a
8:43 Catholic worldview it’s just there’s a
8:45 time and a place for everything down
8:47 yeah I I would actually agree with that
8:49 there’s a time and a place for
8:51 everything can you talk a little bit
8:52 about the physical
8:53 universe and what role Satan played in
8:55 creating the universe well he had a part
8:59 in it it was a group effort to create
9:02 the universe it was a group effort can
9:05 you talk about Adam and Eve and that how
9:07 its it into your worldview well if
9:10 you’ve ever studied jewish folklore
9:12 lilith was the first wife of adam she
9:16 rebelled against him she was kicked out
9:18 of the Garden of Eden and then God made
9:20 Eve out of his rib so she would be more
9:24 controllable so where’s Lilith she’s
9:27 around does she play a part in the
9:30 quote/unquote family of Satan like a
9:32 shield consort or a lover of Satan
9:35 I think she’s a lover and does she have
9:37 a lot of control over Satan do you think
9:39 no not really
9:41 she just puts her two cents in oh and he
9:44 takes it or leaves it yeah pretty much
9:46 is Satan happy with the way things are
9:49 turning out for the most part you know
9:51 from what I understand he’s less
9:55 disillusioned now if you realize that
9:58 nobody is really inherently evil and he
10:02 can’t really exploit that any more now I
10:06 believe in a God that is all-knowing
10:11 all-loving all good
10:12 that’s incident in every perfection how
10:15 do you see Satan in terms of if he’s the
10:17 Supreme Being
10:18 how can he learn about his creation it
10:22 doesn’t sound as magnificent as the God
10:25 that I worship where my God always knew
10:27 everything right from the beginning he
10:28 didn’t learn anything so well I think
10:31 everyone has flaws including the gods
10:34 they all have flaws I mean the Greeks
10:37 but their mythology all their gods had
10:39 flaws do you see a lot of truth in
10:42 mythology of all the world’s religions
10:43 and legends I do I was doing research on
10:48 a I don’t know Herbies tribest a jurist
10:52 or something like that and he had the
10:55 idea that all religions have a common
10:59 thread it’s a very popular notion today
11:02 the Joseph Campbell NER
11:05 of what religion is even Carl Jung and
11:08 Carl Jung yes so Jung had a very
11:13 interesting world outlook he thought
11:16 that we were all connected in was that
11:19 part of your DMT experience or no yes it
11:22 was definitely part of it how are you
11:25 supposed to work with this new
11:26 understanding of your like from your
11:29 perspective obviously how are you
11:31 supposed to work with this and integrate
11:33 it into your mundane day-to-day life I
11:36 don’t know it’s been really hard man
11:38 it’s been really hard trying to
11:40 integrate it into my life you know it’s
11:42 not easy it’s not easy at all being on
11:45 this planet no matter what you believe
11:46 if you believe nothing that’s the
11:48 hardest probably yeah it is to believe
11:51 nothing I mean I was an atheist for a
11:54 while and it just seemed like a cop-out
11:58 it’s basically like I don’t know I don’t
12:00 see evidence I don’t believe in this
12:03 anymore
12:04 so I think being an atheist of the
12:06 cop-out life is too short to sit on the
12:10 fence find something you can believe it
12:14 and run with it I believe as a Catholic
12:17 that I have a guardian angel and that
12:18 he’s always with me do you have angels
12:22 or I guess you would call them demons
12:24 fallen angels that are protecting you I
12:27 do and can you give an example of what
12:30 the what how that benefits you well I’m
12:32 a very introverted person and they tend
12:36 to keep me company so would you say in
12:39 general that you enjoy the company of
12:40 Satan yes I would you know from my
12:43 perspective Satan’s a liar and he’s
12:45 treating me very well now but later he’s
12:46 going to torture you and it won’t be fun
12:48 how do you respond to that sort of
12:50 warning personally I think it’s a good
12:52 morning because he can be a liar and a
12:56 deceiver okay you know that I do know
12:59 that yes but I think it depends on the
13:03 person
13:03 I think Satan for the role that he
13:06 played in bringing me to what I consider
13:08 to be ultimate reality ultimate truth
13:10 and to salvation so from my perspective
13:12 I can see the role that Satan is playing
13:14 against his will he’s cooperating with
13:17 my god and bringing
13:19 at the ending you know and those who
13:20 deserve everlasting torment because of
13:23 their hatred of God and everything looks
13:25 good I think that he’s playing an
13:27 important role too in tricking them
13:29 straight into the depths of hell yeah
13:32 well well that’s his game I’m a lot that
13:35 eyeing it that’s his game but he tends
13:39 to wind up having a few souls they
13:44 actually cares about like you like me
13:47 and assert through other people are
13:50 there some big names in history you
13:51 could talk about you’re not contest well
13:53 let’s just get one thing out of the way
13:56 and Timofey was an idiot according to my
14:00 higher self Aleister Crowley and Anton
14:04 LaVey both summoning they both summon
14:06 Satan
14:06 well yeah but they summoned his son as
14:09 well oh they summon your higher self yes
14:12 okay you can’t tell me the name of that
14:14 entity it’s the name I use for the intro
14:17 hi Chris hi Chris yeah okay I hope it in
14:20 just someone anyway a renowned spy Chris
14:23 there you go so I know now he’s used to
14:27 eat laughing right now he’s just
14:29 laughing he’s like oh this was a good
14:30 this is a pretty good interview okay so
14:32 so hold on Anton LaVey and alistair
14:36 crowley worth summoning pie Chris okay
14:38 hi Chris gets mistaken for Satan all the
14:40 time because of the red skin and the
14:42 horns and the long tail
14:44 she doesn’t have red skin and horns on
14:46 okay I’m just kidding but he just talked
14:48 about it several times to me and it’s
14:50 like it all happened by accident it
14:53 seems odd because Anton LaVey was an
14:55 atheist wasn’t we well I guess
14:57 accidental oh okay
15:00 just because of gestures or rituals or
15:03 theatrical play mm-hmm so it is
15:05 dangerous to play fully engage in Ouija
15:08 boards any sorts of things yes it is
15:10 Berrien the only way to effectively
15:13 destroy a Ouija board it’s the Burnet
15:16 okay with natural fire yes now what
15:19 about that guy that was in Russia and he
15:21 made lots of predictions they was hard
15:23 to kill would be Avari rest beauty yeah
15:27 was he a big player in the world of
15:29 Satan I think he had ties to it he was
15:32 and he could do things that nobody else
15:34 could do did he think he was getting
15:36 power from God or from Satan or what you
15:39 know I don’t really know I should look
15:41 into it
15:41 yeah I should look into it too so you’re
15:45 not in touch with the whole history of
15:47 the human race past present and future
15:48 you just have a few connections on the
15:50 other side yes is sacrifice because in
15:56 my religion there’s no there’s no
15:58 forgiveness of sins without the shedding
16:00 of blood and so the true sacrifice is
16:03 the son of God Jesus Christ he is the
16:05 Lamb of God
16:05 so is there is there a notion of
16:07 sacrifice and of blood ritual in your
16:11 worldview it was done at one point to
16:15 make point like we’re here we we know
16:19 you’re here and everything but I don’t
16:22 think it sacrificed as a place in modern
16:26 time there was a lot of talk in the 80s
16:30 the satanic panic about child sacrifice
16:33 and stuff like that is there any truth
16:34 to that
16:34 I think there’s some there’s some truth
16:37 to it and sex abuse ritual sex abuse
16:39 system yeah ritual sex because I think
16:42 there is some truth to that and those
16:45 people are playing the wrong game don’t
16:48 play the game if you won’t want to get
16:50 burned yeah it seems like there’s a lack
16:52 of education among the sort of pagan
16:55 Wiccan satanic world about the dangers
16:58 of what people engage in it’s sort of
17:00 like everyone’s free to experiment and
17:02 do what they want to do but it doesn’t
17:05 seem to be a lot of clear warnings about
17:08 what not to do well in my opinion I
17:11 think a lot of the Satanic texts have
17:13 been suppressed over the years can you
17:16 talk a little bit about Pharaoh and the
17:17 ten plagues is that is that something
17:19 that’s sort of interests you at all yes
17:21 that actually it just me a lot well
17:23 apparently if you’ve been following what
17:26 happened on 4chan they apparently
17:29 accidentally represented an Egyptian
17:33 deity are you talking about that frog
17:37 Tech and Pepe the Frog with Satanism I
17:41 find there’s a lot of humor and there’s
17:42 a lot of tongue-in-cheek sarcasm and it
17:45 makes it hard to know what’s real and
17:46 what’s not and what’s frightening and
17:48 what’s funny yes it and I see that as a
17:51 sort of veil over the very deadly and
17:54 serious as a mask of humor and
17:56 lightheartedness and I see that with
17:57 Tech and the Frog God yeah well
18:00 according to legend text Keck was the
18:03 Egyptian god of primordial chaos not
18:07 something you want to mess with no and
18:09 apparently means he stuffed given power
18:12 I wonder what Carl Jung would say about
18:15 all this I think you’d actually
18:16 legitimately find it fascinating that
18:19 the collective unconscious and the
18:21 collective conscious sort of came
18:22 together and accidentally resurrected in
18:25 a chip deity there are a bunch of
18:26 different satanic churches that are sort
18:28 of coming out of the closet and getting
18:29 official recognition do you have a
18:32 church and if you do is it recognized
18:34 and it open no it’s it’s open but it’s
18:37 not really good Church it’s more of a
18:39 collective worldwide your numbers of
18:41 explicit conscious members of this
18:44 collective would be fifty people five
18:46 hundred people five thousand five
18:47 million how many I’m not even sure well
18:49 how many do you know of personally that
18:51 you speak with on internet or in reality
18:54 a handful Kurt yeah not that many No and
18:59 is it important to you that the numbers
19:02 increase or not really it’s not really
19:05 important to me I do what I do I believe
19:07 what I believe and if somebody wants to
19:09 come along and experience it and so be
19:12 it
19:12 you’re not pushing like Scientology is
19:14 pushing pretty hard you’re not pushing
19:15 oh don’t get me started on Scientology
19:19 okay don’t get me started on that I have
19:21 a whole rant about Scientology why why
19:25 don’t you like them because it’s
19:27 ridiculous and this is a violation
19:29 formed by a two-bit science fiction
19:32 writer and what role does Satan play in
19:34 Scientology he wants to be is very far
19:37 wish medic possible don’t put his name
19:39 and ul ron Hubbard’s name and same
19:41 decidin so are there other cults that
19:44 are equally disdainful to like the
19:46 Westboro Baptist Church do you find that
19:48 at a hateful organization
19:50 they should be ashamed of themselves I
19:53 don’t crap on anyone who has related
19:56 happened to have a lot of friends at a
19:58 Catholic a lot of my family still
20:00 Catholic and the Westboro Baptist Church
20:04 are just a bunch of hateful people that
20:08 how they could take the Bible and see it
20:11 as a tool for hate what do you think
20:14 about Pope Francis as a man and as a
20:17 spiritual leader
20:18 I think Pope Francis’s is a progressive
20:22 okay is that a dirty word for you or is
20:24 that okay
20:25 it has dirty connotations cuz just a lot
20:29 of the weird crap that’s going on in the
20:32 world today bunch of whiny people
20:35 whining about everything political
20:37 correctness and all that yeah I hate
20:40 political correctness I hate it I hate
20:42 it I hate it anyway I don’t talk too
20:44 much about politics so I’m not that
20:46 interested but Nicki said something
20:48 funny she said politics gives Satan a
20:50 headache it does oh my god it does and
20:53 he hates it when I rant about politics
20:55 what does Satan like to talk about with
20:57 you funnily enough classic automobiles
21:01 really okay what kind of car does he
21:03 like old Cadillacs purses stuff like
21:08 that okay what about the Goths and emos
21:12 scenes are they connected in any way
21:15 with paganism or Wicca or Satanism or is
21:18 it just a fashion I’ve met a few emo and
21:21 goth people that have been Satanist but
21:24 it seems like there is sort of like
21:26 position is cool right now let’s do this
21:29 it is sort of trendy now to come out as
21:32 a Satanist I see a lot of I see a lot
21:34 online I don’t know if that’s just
21:36 because the Internet’s exposing sort of
21:37 the underbelly they’re comfortable
21:39 coming out of the closet because they
21:41 can still hide it from the families or
21:43 if it’s actually growing what do you
21:45 think I think the Internet has has
21:48 changed the way we look at the world
21:51 because anybody can post anything on the
21:53 Internet but that’s what appeals to me
21:56 about the day is that you can remain
21:58 anonymous now I want to go back to
22:02 something you said earlier and if
22:03 you talked about spending time in the
22:06 mental institution or something like
22:07 that yes can you talk a little bit about
22:09 the people you met there the staff the
22:12 other patients what did you learn like
22:15 not only about yourself but about the
22:17 system about people trying to get help
22:19 oh and a below just mental illness in
22:21 general this is going to be a long rant
22:24 so I’ve been in four times now in the
22:29 past three years I’ve been inpatient
22:31 four times um what I learned about it is
22:34 my whole thing about I mean yes there
22:37 does there do exist
22:39 mental illnesses of course they do exist
22:42 but to me it seems like past the time
22:48 that the people who go in there aren’t
22:49 getting the help they need all they do
22:53 is they keep you in for a couple of days
22:55 putting on some kind of drug that
22:57 doesn’t really do anything and then send
23:00 you on your way and expect you to be
23:02 better did you get any compassion from
23:04 any of the staff for your fellow
23:05 patients yes the head nurse was very
23:09 friendly and we kind of connected on a
23:12 level I worked in an old folks home and
23:16 I was just cleaning but I saw that a lot
23:19 of the staff were very good and very
23:21 conscientious and very caring and they
23:22 gave a lot but some of the stuff treated
23:25 it more like a job yep I I noticed that
23:28 too
23:28 like you know because all on the inside
23:30 and it also seems like they treat mental
23:34 health patients as prisoners and I don’t
23:36 like it ever since I’ve had my run-ins
23:39 in psychiatry I’ve become like an anti
23:41 site person yeah well I think there’s
23:44 some truth in psychiatry but it’s just a
23:46 human side where the application may be
23:49 inhuman exactly it sounds good on paper
23:52 but the execution is crap it’s hard
23:55 enough to love your brother like your
23:57 own biological brothers never mind some
23:59 stranger that you’re giving charge and
24:01 you don’t have time to get to know them
24:03 and you know that you’re just part of a
24:04 big machine that’s grinding them out
24:06 exactly the one thing that makes me want
24:09 to scream is that the psychiatrist that
24:13 work inpatient are horribly incompetent
24:15 he
24:16 it’s it’s sad it’s a sad world we’re
24:19 living in on a cheerier note what I like
24:22 to do the end of my show is just what my
24:24 let my guests talk to the audience
24:25 directly just to finish up and to wrap
24:28 up our talk what would you say to anyone
24:30 out there that’s listening you know it
24:33 gets better guys it gets better
24:36 it really does if you’re out there and
24:38 you’re feeling like you don’t have any
24:41 anything or or you don’t feel like life
24:45 is going anywhere you know get help find
24:48 a good psychiatrist and get help
24:52 [Music]
24:55 yeah you know get what I’ll do if you
24:58 can get some questions ready and okay
25:01 all you got to do is all you got to do
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